BUT the far, FAR more important thing here is not what the movie is saying, but the audience’s reaction!

What percentage of Americans do you think left the movie theatre disgusted with Batman’s morality?

I’ll give you a hint: the figure is microscopic in comparison to how many disapprove of Bush’s morality. microscopic.

We must use this—I already used it on a liberal friend of mine and after they admit they like Batman’s morals they have no argument against the basic ideas the war is based on.

I believe this is not only a great film, it has the ability to open minds.

“By 1998, we had a concrete list of WMDs that the Iraqi government admitted to producing, weapons that Iraq was not allowed to produce. Forget CIA speculation.”

Are you able to even follow the debate surrounding 9/11? You sound like you’re information is limited to a small but distrubed community of ultra right-wing conspiracy theorists. What was the actual, recent and cogent intelligence about WMD immediately prior to our intervention? If you were capable of following the conversation you’d understand this was the proper point to address.

It’s poorly thought out individuals such as yourself that give actual conservatives a bad name.

I thought it odd that most of the cast were English or European. Did Nolan think an American cast would pick up on the analogy and rebel?

Oh, so we had no right to invade a nation that admitted to being in possession of or producing thousands of weapons and weapons agents that were in violation of the Gulf War ceasefire? We had no right to invade a nation that refused to comply with U.N. resolutions time after time after time? We had no right to invade a nation that provided funding and shelter to terrorists and terrorist groups, including one of the masterminds behind the 1993 WTC bombings? Don’t give me this “bad evidence” nonsense. By 1998, we had a concrete list of WMDs that the Iraqi government admitted to producing, weapons that Iraq was not allowed to produce. Forget CIA speculation. Forget the intelligence reports. This was stuff Iraq ADMITTED to having. And Iraq not only failed to provide credible evidence that these weapons had been destroyed, but also actively worked to hinder U.N. investigations.

“Did not the government hire contract killers (Blackwater) who took out 17 unarmed civilians, and at least 14 of them had no reason to die (many of whom were women and children)?”

Private contractor guards who happened to be under government contract went a little nuts and killed civilians? Oh, that evil George Bush! Shit happens in war, Chris. Yes, that was a terrible incident. But do you really think innocent people never got shot without cause by the Allies during World War II? You cannot judge a war or the Commander and Chief executing the war based on the renegade actions of a few Blackwater guards. Bush did not “target civilians.”

“Has not the Bush administration used torture methods on persons that might not be terrorists at all?”

The definition of torture is subject to debate, and if a person is in government custody, I think it’s fair to assume that he is being held for a reason.

“Batman would get his facts straight, do the proper investigation, not go after anyone who wasn’t involved, certainly not target civilians, and he wouldn’t use torture on anyone that he didn’t know for certain was involved in the crime going on in Gotham City. He also leaves Metropolis alone because those criminals don’t have anything to do with the crime in Gotham.”

Well, you certainly deflated Harry’s comparison there. Nevermind the fact that you’re being glib and even downright disingenuous when it comes to Bush’s handling of the war, as I proved above. But hey, while you’re at it, why don’t you bring up the fact that Batman doesn’t have a southern accent? And hey, isn’t Bush just a little bit older than Batman?

Give me a break. Harry was making a generalized comparison. Sure, if you zoom far enough in, you’re gonna find discrepancies. Hey, no allegory is perfect.

Batman would get his facts straight, do the proper investigation, not go after anyone who wasn’t involved, certainly not target civilians, and he wouldn’t use torture on anyone that he didn’t know for certain was involved in the crime going on in Gotham City. He also leaves Metropolis alone because those criminals don’t have anything to do with the crime in Gotham.

So unless you can prove otherwise, GWB is definitely NOT Bruce Wayne/Batman.

Here is a little bit of advice….stop trying to find the knife. There isnt one. OK? Even if Leahy is in it. Politicians, especially leftwing morons are not especially the brightest spark plugs in the V8.

So I am failing to see your connection between Bush and Batman here.
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The foolishness and ignorance of the facts on the GWOT in this statement is well breathtaking. Even if I would agree with a third of it, it is still…..wow…..