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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46733</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, the reason I persist in the facts is to simply make people aware of what conservatives are up against in this or any election. I'm not a gloom &#38; doom guy. I honestly think the numbers for McCain-Palin are much greater than the polls show, and in November there will some loser in the NBCABCCBS newsroom wondering how it happened. After all, &lt;b&gt;they&lt;/b&gt; don't know anyone who voted for the old white haired dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, the reason I persist in the facts is to simply make people aware of what conservatives are up against in this or any election. I&#8217;m not a gloom &amp; doom guy. I honestly think the numbers for McCain-Palin are much greater than the polls show, and in November there will some loser in the NBCABCCBS newsroom wondering how it happened. After all, <b>they</b> don&#8217;t know anyone who voted for the old white haired dude.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46731</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying that the numbers I present are irrelevant is kind of like saying that Pravda was irrelevant in Russian's opinion of Stalin and America. 

I don't know if you folks have noticed but the last two presidential elections were incredibly close. America was like something short of a few thousand votes from a President Gore. And a few hundred thousand from a President Kerry. 

When ABC, CBS and NBC, every weeknight, get viewers on the order of 12.5 Million viewers, you dismiss the Obama-nauts at these networks as irrelevant at America's peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying that the numbers I present are irrelevant is kind of like saying that Pravda was irrelevant in Russian&#8217;s opinion of Stalin and America. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if you folks have noticed but the last two presidential elections were incredibly close. America was like something short of a few thousand votes from a President Gore. And a few hundred thousand from a President Kerry. </p>
<p>When ABC, CBS and NBC, every weeknight, get viewers on the order of 12.5 Million viewers, you dismiss the Obama-nauts at these networks as irrelevant at America&#8217;s peril.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46730</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 02:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie, my comments are directly related to the comments you make above, "Everyday more and more people look at Drudge, and get their news from sources other than ABC, NBC and CBS. Everyday FOX gets more viewers, so do the other two."

What evidence, other than your own opinion do you have for this assertion? I gave you hard numbers with sources. What are yours?

That the date I chose to focus on was during the Dem Convention is beside the point. I could give you the same numbers for the GOP convention. More people watched the Palin &#38; McCain on NBC, CBS, ABC, and every cable news outlet combined than watched it on Fox or browsed Drudge for info. Millions more, in fact.

The point is that the left-wing Main Scream Media get far more attention from the public then Drudge, Fox or talk radio put together. And I also don't consider Fox's &lt;i&gt;news&lt;/i&gt; reporting all that "fair and balanced." Fox relies on AP et al just as does every other news organization. And I would bet there are just as many left-leaning journalism school graduates in the Fox &lt;i&gt;news division&lt;/i&gt; as there are in CNN's &#38; MSNBC's. 

If you want to pretend that the millions watching ABC, NBC &#38; CBS don't matter, fine. But don't come here and expect everyone else to bow down before your bluster. Facts matter. And the fact is Sean Hannity just doesn't have the market share that NBC network news has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie, my comments are directly related to the comments you make above, &#8220;Everyday more and more people look at Drudge, and get their news from sources other than ABC, NBC and CBS. Everyday FOX gets more viewers, so do the other two.&#8221;</p>
<p>What evidence, other than your own opinion do you have for this assertion? I gave you hard numbers with sources. What are yours?</p>
<p>That the date I chose to focus on was during the Dem Convention is beside the point. I could give you the same numbers for the GOP convention. More people watched the Palin &amp; McCain on NBC, CBS, ABC, and every cable news outlet combined than watched it on Fox or browsed Drudge for info. Millions more, in fact.</p>
<p>The point is that the left-wing Main Scream Media get far more attention from the public then Drudge, Fox or talk radio put together. And I also don&#8217;t consider Fox&#8217;s <i>news</i> reporting all that &#8220;fair and balanced.&#8221; Fox relies on AP et al just as does every other news organization. And I would bet there are just as many left-leaning journalism school graduates in the Fox <i>news division</i> as there are in CNN&#8217;s &amp; MSNBC&#8217;s. </p>
<p>If you want to pretend that the millions watching ABC, NBC &amp; CBS don&#8217;t matter, fine. But don&#8217;t come here and expect everyone else to bow down before your bluster. Facts matter. And the fact is Sean Hannity just doesn&#8217;t have the market share that NBC network news has.</p>
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		<title>By: Audietoo</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46704</link>
		<author>Audietoo</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2008 00:16:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No neoconJedi: it was not hilarious, several million people still get their news and all their current 'knowledge' from CNN and I can tell you that their response to any good thing said about McCain is  Oh I just can't stan his lies."   This is the picture the media is painting and they are getting away with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No neoconJedi: it was not hilarious, several million people still get their news and all their current &#8216;knowledge&#8217; from CNN and I can tell you that their response to any good thing said about McCain is  Oh I just can&#8217;t stan his lies.&#8221;   This is the picture the media is painting and they are getting away with it.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Harry&#8217;s Place&#8230; &#187; More Outrageous CNN Factchecks &#8212; Help On The Way?</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46660</link>
		<author>Dirty Harry&#8217;s Place&#8230; &#187; More Outrageous CNN Factchecks &#8212; Help On The Way?</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 22:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46660</guid>
		<description>[...] said yesterday that conservatives had better get their act together and call this nonsense out for what it is. The [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] said yesterday that conservatives had better get their act together and call this nonsense out for what it is. The [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Looking Glass</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46628</link>
		<author>Looking Glass</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 21:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stephanie "&lt;i&gt;You know what you people are such cry babys. Total whining cry babies. Daniel your numbers are interesting but they really don’t say much. A lot of negative bs. But nothing substantial.
You are talking about DNC ratings. THe GOP convention drew a bigger crowd without having all of the outlets that the dems had showing it. And yet you have these numbers. Interesting but so irrevelant. Totally irrelevant.&lt;/i&gt;"

  This is why conservatives win.  We have the real women on our side.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie &#8220;<i>You know what you people are such cry babys. Total whining cry babies. Daniel your numbers are interesting but they really don’t say much. A lot of negative bs. But nothing substantial.<br />
You are talking about DNC ratings. THe GOP convention drew a bigger crowd without having all of the outlets that the dems had showing it. And yet you have these numbers. Interesting but so irrevelant. Totally irrelevant.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>  This is why conservatives win.  We have the real women on our side.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephanie</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46577</link>
		<author>Stephanie</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:42:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46577</guid>
		<description>You know what you people are such cry babys. Total whining cry babies. Daniel your numbers are interesting but they really don't say much. A lot of negative bs. But nothing substantial. 
You are talking about DNC ratings. THe GOP convention drew a bigger crowd without having all of the outlets that the dems had showing it. And yet you have these numbers. Interesting but so irrevelant. Totally irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what you people are such cry babys. Total whining cry babies. Daniel your numbers are interesting but they really don&#8217;t say much. A lot of negative bs. But nothing substantial.<br />
You are talking about DNC ratings. THe GOP convention drew a bigger crowd without having all of the outlets that the dems had showing it. And yet you have these numbers. Interesting but so irrevelant. Totally irrelevant.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46573</link>
		<author>Daniel</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46573</guid>
		<description>And the Big Three Networks - NBC, CBS, ABC - that no one is any attention to according to some:

During the Democrat convention on its third night, when viewer ship dropped off according to one report &lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/08/broadcast_tv_news_audiences_fa.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;: 

"NBC averag[ed] 5.63 million viewers"
"CBS averaged 3.59 million viewers"
"ABC’s ... averaged 3.31 million viewers"

And here's the cable ratings for Wednesday, 8/25:
FNC – 1,301,000 viewers
CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, HLN – 2,500,000 viewers
&lt;b&gt;&lt;a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/28/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-august-27/4825" rel="nofollow"&gt;LINK&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

So on Wednesday, 8/25, how did the Fox compare to everyone else?
Fox = 1.3 Million viewers
Everyone else = 15,030,000

It looks to me like the MSM is going to have to lose A LOT OF VIEWERS.

And I'm supposed to think that these people are irrelevant? Numbers like that count as very, very relevant to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the Big Three Networks - NBC, CBS, ABC - that no one is any attention to according to some:</p>
<p>During the Democrat convention on its third night, when viewer ship dropped off according to one report <b><a href="http://www.tvweek.com/news/2008/08/broadcast_tv_news_audiences_fa.php" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></b>: </p>
<p>&#8220;NBC averag[ed] 5.63 million viewers&#8221;<br />
&#8220;CBS averaged 3.59 million viewers&#8221;<br />
&#8220;ABC’s &#8230; averaged 3.31 million viewers&#8221;</p>
<p>And here&#8217;s the cable ratings for Wednesday, 8/25:<br />
FNC – 1,301,000 viewers<br />
CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, HLN – 2,500,000 viewers<br />
<b><a href="http://tvbythenumbers.com/2008/08/28/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-august-27/4825" rel="nofollow">LINK</a></b></p>
<p>So on Wednesday, 8/25, how did the Fox compare to everyone else?<br />
Fox = 1.3 Million viewers<br />
Everyone else = 15,030,000</p>
<p>It looks to me like the MSM is going to have to lose A LOT OF VIEWERS.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m supposed to think that these people are irrelevant? Numbers like that count as very, very relevant to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack  Marino</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46569</link>
		<author>Jack  Marino</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:23:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is going to get worst from the left, right up to Nov 4.  Then the BOMB hits and Obama is beaten badly.  Then the real vile will come to the surface.  Bush ignores all his attacks which turn public opinion against him.  I hope McCain and Palin get out there and fight back like tigers and show the media, the democrats for what they really are - Traitors</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is going to get worst from the left, right up to Nov 4.  Then the BOMB hits and Obama is beaten badly.  Then the real vile will come to the surface.  Bush ignores all his attacks which turn public opinion against him.  I hope McCain and Palin get out there and fight back like tigers and show the media, the democrats for what they really are - Traitors</p>
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		<title>By: Supramom2000</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4595#comment-46567</link>
		<author>Supramom2000</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Sep 2008 18:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking Glass,

I went to the link and read the article at Christian Science.  Boy was it biased towards Obama.  Actually calling statements that Obama's tax plans will raise taxes on everyone a lie.  No explanation as to how 95% will get a tax cut, no taking into account that 40% don't pay taxes anyway, etc.

They bash Palin and the Bridge to Nowhere as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking Glass,</p>
<p>I went to the link and read the article at Christian Science.  Boy was it biased towards Obama.  Actually calling statements that Obama&#8217;s tax plans will raise taxes on everyone a lie.  No explanation as to how 95% will get a tax cut, no taking into account that 40% don&#8217;t pay taxes anyway, etc.</p>
<p>They bash Palin and the Bridge to Nowhere as well.</p>
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