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		<title>By: MovieBob</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49555</link>
		<author>MovieBob</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carolyn
&lt;i&gt;"Ohhhh, MovieBob!! You are sooooo clever to come up with that explanation — ‘Hey, people! Just because a film makes money doesn’t mean it REALLY makes money because the only films that make money are the ones Hollywood makes.’"&lt;/i&gt;

I didn't say it didn't really make money, I said that no matter how much money these make it's not going to matter IF the ultimate goal is "transforming" the popular culture by getting more religious-right subject matter into the industry. Because the industry is, despite some evidence contrary, neither stupid nor careless with it's money.

People following the business side of this know the score: That the Christian Film audience doesn't respond to product - even when it's aimed at them - unless they knows it's been made "by the community, for the community." That's why B-grade entries like this, Omega Code, Left Behind, etc. have a turnout and the pious-to-a-fault "Nativity Story" didn't: Because the Christian "market" is a seperate self-sustaining entity and no one involved in making that film was in "the family."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carolyn<br />
<i>&#8220;Ohhhh, MovieBob!! You are sooooo clever to come up with that explanation — ‘Hey, people! Just because a film makes money doesn’t mean it REALLY makes money because the only films that make money are the ones Hollywood makes.’&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t say it didn&#8217;t really make money, I said that no matter how much money these make it&#8217;s not going to matter IF the ultimate goal is &#8220;transforming&#8221; the popular culture by getting more religious-right subject matter into the industry. Because the industry is, despite some evidence contrary, neither stupid nor careless with it&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>People following the business side of this know the score: That the Christian Film audience doesn&#8217;t respond to product - even when it&#8217;s aimed at them - unless they knows it&#8217;s been made &#8220;by the community, for the community.&#8221; That&#8217;s why B-grade entries like this, Omega Code, Left Behind, etc. have a turnout and the pious-to-a-fault &#8220;Nativity Story&#8221; didn&#8217;t: Because the Christian &#8220;market&#8221; is a seperate self-sustaining entity and no one involved in making that film was in &#8220;the family.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Eastwood</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49386</link>
		<author>Clint Eastwood</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 05:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MovieBob, that's kinda how we felt about Air America.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MovieBob, that&#8217;s kinda how we felt about Air America.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49379</link>
		<author>Carolyn</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 04:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohhhh, MovieBob!!  You are sooooo clever to come up with that explanation -- 'Hey, people!  Just because a film makes money doesn't mean it REALLY makes money because the only films that make money are the ones Hollywood makes.'

Ooooh, gosh, I'm all aquiver.  Tell me, when you knelt down at Hollywood's knee for those many days to get this gem of thought, did you manage to get Hollywood's other gem as well?  You know, the one that goes 'Making films that trash America just proves how much we love her'.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohhhh, MovieBob!!  You are sooooo clever to come up with that explanation &#8212; &#8216;Hey, people!  Just because a film makes money doesn&#8217;t mean it REALLY makes money because the only films that make money are the ones Hollywood makes.&#8217;</p>
<p>Ooooh, gosh, I&#8217;m all aquiver.  Tell me, when you knelt down at Hollywood&#8217;s knee for those many days to get this gem of thought, did you manage to get Hollywood&#8217;s other gem as well?  You know, the one that goes &#8216;Making films that trash America just proves how much we love her&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: MovieBob</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49371</link>
		<author>MovieBob</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49371</guid>
		<description>I, for one, have never made fun of Kirk Cameron for being a Christian. I HAVE, however, made fun of him for being &lt;i&gt;Kirk Cameron.&lt;/i&gt; ;)

You do realize, of course, that no matter how many of these crack the top ten it's not gonna make much difference because they always come with that asterix, the one that says: "boxoffice take owed chiefly to insider marketing effort in community that wants nothing to do with you." When one of these pulls it off &lt;i&gt;without&lt;/i&gt; drafting ministers as pitchmen or church groups block-buying tickets to inflate the gross, it'll be more impressive. The only lesson to be gleaned here is that striking a solid amount of prints and heavily marketing to a niche audience - with heavy emphasis on the notion of ticket-purchase as political-statement - is a good way to turn a profit on an independent B-movie; and that hasn't been news since &lt;i&gt;"Billy Jack."&lt;/i&gt;

It's the same thing with Tyler Perry - his success doesn't prove that the Black Middle Class is an economic bloc worth pursuing, it just proves that they go to see a lot of Tyler Perry movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, have never made fun of Kirk Cameron for being a Christian. I HAVE, however, made fun of him for being <i>Kirk Cameron.</i> <img src='http://dirtyharrysplace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>You do realize, of course, that no matter how many of these crack the top ten it&#8217;s not gonna make much difference because they always come with that asterix, the one that says: &#8220;boxoffice take owed chiefly to insider marketing effort in community that wants nothing to do with you.&#8221; When one of these pulls it off <i>without</i> drafting ministers as pitchmen or church groups block-buying tickets to inflate the gross, it&#8217;ll be more impressive. The only lesson to be gleaned here is that striking a solid amount of prints and heavily marketing to a niche audience - with heavy emphasis on the notion of ticket-purchase as political-statement - is a good way to turn a profit on an independent B-movie; and that hasn&#8217;t been news since <i>&#8220;Billy Jack.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same thing with Tyler Perry - his success doesn&#8217;t prove that the Black Middle Class is an economic bloc worth pursuing, it just proves that they go to see a lot of Tyler Perry movies.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin J wadlroup</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49370</link>
		<author>kevin J wadlroup</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 03:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did anyone SEE Fireproof? Did their church promote it? I saw zero ads here in L.A. and I don’t attend church, but that’s where the credit is going for its success. Just curious. It would be great if it’s actually a good movie, too!

Did anyone SEE Fireproof? yes 
 It would be great if it’s actually a good movie, too!
it ok Movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did anyone SEE Fireproof? Did their church promote it? I saw zero ads here in L.A. and I don’t attend church, but that’s where the credit is going for its success. Just curious. It would be great if it’s actually a good movie, too!</p>
<p>Did anyone SEE Fireproof? yes<br />
 It would be great if it’s actually a good movie, too!<br />
it ok Movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Buck Turgidson</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49354</link>
		<author>Buck Turgidson</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 02:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#20 and 21:  Thanks for the information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20 and 21:  Thanks for the information.</p>
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		<title>By: Carolyn</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49352</link>
		<author>Carolyn</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:55:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, are the grapes sour in Hollywood about this film.

Nikki Finke is forced to admit it had "the year’s highest grossing opening weekend return of any film (except 3-D Hannah Montana) released on 1,000 screens or less."

But she got her revenge in the next paragraph when she snipped "...not all Christian-themed movies do well: in fact, most don't.."  

"Most don't?"  Sheesh, they just won't give up, will they?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, are the grapes sour in Hollywood about this film.</p>
<p>Nikki Finke is forced to admit it had &#8220;the year’s highest grossing opening weekend return of any film (except 3-D Hannah Montana) released on 1,000 screens or less.&#8221;</p>
<p>But she got her revenge in the next paragraph when she snipped &#8220;&#8230;not all Christian-themed movies do well: in fact, most don&#8217;t..&#8221;  </p>
<p>&#8220;Most don&#8217;t?&#8221;  Sheesh, they just won&#8217;t give up, will they?</p>
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		<title>By: Ohio Wolverine mom</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49351</link>
		<author>Ohio Wolverine mom</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:54:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buck, go read the synposis of the film--the protagonist is a firefighter,who has a partner, who gets him thinking about how to handle the troubles with his life partner---spouse--tagline line is to get you thinkin".....not be P.C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buck, go read the synposis of the film&#8211;the protagonist is a firefighter,who has a partner, who gets him thinking about how to handle the troubles with his life partner&#8212;spouse&#8211;tagline line is to get you thinkin&#8221;&#8230;..not be P.C.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49350</link>
		<author>Kit</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Buck Turgison,

The "partner" bit is just a cheesy way of connecting the main character's occupation as a firefighter with his marriage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Buck Turgison,</p>
<p>The &#8220;partner&#8221; bit is just a cheesy way of connecting the main character&#8217;s occupation as a firefighter with his marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49349</link>
		<author>Kit</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 01:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4723#comment-49349</guid>
		<description>ChristopherMC,

Don't you mean "Karma's a bitch?"

I agree with your point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ChristopherMC,</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t you mean &#8220;Karma&#8217;s a bitch?&#8221;</p>
<p>I agree with your point.</p>
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