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	<title>Comments on: &#8216;Slate&#8217; on &#8216;Red Dawn&#8217;: The Enemy Is Us</title>
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		<title>By: Jack  Marino</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54316</link>
		<author>Jack  Marino</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 06:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kit,

That was the trailer I had made by a guy that cut trailers for Disney back in 92.  I recently did a teaser which is more contemporary in style.  I have them both on you tube at: http://www.youtube.com/user/jackma152

check out  http://www.myspace.com/forgottenheroesthemovie  
read some reviews and the letter I got from President Bush about my film

By the way gang I am donating $5.00 from each DVD sale to THE AMERICAN VETERANS DISABLED FOR LIFE MEMORIAL FUND so when you buy my film 25% of the sale will go to help our disabled Vets.  I wonder if Oliver Stone gave 25% of his sales of Platoon to any Vietnam Vets.

Buy FORGOTTEN HEROES you will be helping the Vets and one conservative filmmaker that has been blackballed by the industry for over 20 years I am writing this long epic for my web site so you can understand what is really going on out there in the real world of Hollywood when it comes to unknown filmmakers that you never hear of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kit,</p>
<p>That was the trailer I had made by a guy that cut trailers for Disney back in 92.  I recently did a teaser which is more contemporary in style.  I have them both on you tube at: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/jackma152" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/jackma152</a></p>
<p>check out  <a href="http://www.myspace.com/forgottenheroesthemovie" rel="nofollow">http://www.myspace.com/forgottenheroesthemovie</a><br />
read some reviews and the letter I got from President Bush about my film</p>
<p>By the way gang I am donating $5.00 from each DVD sale to THE AMERICAN VETERANS DISABLED FOR LIFE MEMORIAL FUND so when you buy my film 25% of the sale will go to help our disabled Vets.  I wonder if Oliver Stone gave 25% of his sales of Platoon to any Vietnam Vets.</p>
<p>Buy FORGOTTEN HEROES you will be helping the Vets and one conservative filmmaker that has been blackballed by the industry for over 20 years I am writing this long epic for my web site so you can understand what is really going on out there in the real world of Hollywood when it comes to unknown filmmakers that you never hear of.</p>
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		<title>By: Bloody Sam</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54314</link>
		<author>Bloody Sam</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54314</guid>
		<description>Milius has said before in interviews that Red Dawn isn't really about Communism, but about Gun Control, and that that's the reason why so many Libs hated it, and why he didn't direct another feature for five years after Red Dawn had been a modest hit at the box office.

Speaking of Gun Control Cinema, I watched Unforgiven again a few days ago, with the commentary by Richard Schickel, who pointed out something about the film that I'd realized before but never given a lot of thought to: It's a movie about, among other things, the violence inherent in efforts at social control, i.e. the gun-grabbing Sheriff who metes out his own individualized sense of justice based on expediency instead of any kind of morality. 

I know a few Libs who love this film because they see it as a cautionary tale about their beloved Cycle Of Violence (which it is not), the Futility Of Violence, etc., but I think they may have missed the anti-Gun Control theme; I know I pretty much did. This was the last great Eastwood picture, I don't care what anyone else has to say about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milius has said before in interviews that Red Dawn isn&#8217;t really about Communism, but about Gun Control, and that that&#8217;s the reason why so many Libs hated it, and why he didn&#8217;t direct another feature for five years after Red Dawn had been a modest hit at the box office.</p>
<p>Speaking of Gun Control Cinema, I watched Unforgiven again a few days ago, with the commentary by Richard Schickel, who pointed out something about the film that I&#8217;d realized before but never given a lot of thought to: It&#8217;s a movie about, among other things, the violence inherent in efforts at social control, i.e. the gun-grabbing Sheriff who metes out his own individualized sense of justice based on expediency instead of any kind of morality. </p>
<p>I know a few Libs who love this film because they see it as a cautionary tale about their beloved Cycle Of Violence (which it is not), the Futility Of Violence, etc., but I think they may have missed the anti-Gun Control theme; I know I pretty much did. This was the last great Eastwood picture, I don&#8217;t care what anyone else has to say about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Kit</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54296</link>
		<author>Kit</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54296</guid>
		<description>Mr. Marino,

I've seen the trailer, it looks GREAT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktk5J_n3OSA#

Is that really it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Marino,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen the trailer, it looks GREAT!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktk5J_n3OSA#" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktk5J_n3OSA#</a></p>
<p>Is that really it?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack  Marino</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54291</link>
		<author>Jack  Marino</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 02:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54291</guid>
		<description>Forget these remakes why watch something we already saw. We all know in our hearts that they are going to screw it up.  You guys want to support a pro-American film, then buy FORGOTTEN HEROES my independent film.  We all talk about supporting conservative filmmakers, well I am here and nothing is moving.  

Forgotten Heroes is 'Objective Burma meets Kelly's Heroes.  Its not a great film, i made it on fumes, but like a local wine it's not bad.   My film is about a Russian General, played by William Smith (Falconetti) who is seeking freedom during the Vietnam War.  These Americans go in and bring him out and Russian Troops are sent in.  The film is shot in an impressinistic style like those old WWII films with no F-words in it.  Its a good old fashion war film like they use to make at Warners.  

This is exactly the kind of unknown independent pro Veteran, Pro American war film made by a filmmaker with conservative values.  This is an original idea and not a remake.  My film was shut out by the industry and I can write a book on who I met, who I know, who saw my film and how many times.  Its a 20 year struggle to get this film out to you  guys and all you have to do is go to my site

www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com   and support a conservative filmmaker and get his film known instead of letting Hollywood destroy a great film directed by John Milius starring WILLIAM SMITH who plays a Russian Officer  in both films, RED DAWN &#38; FORGOTTEN HEROES.

There isn't too many guys like me with real films on film that are pro American and ready to be shipped to you.  SUPPORT you local conservative filmmaker who blogs here everyday.  Lets sell hundreds of DVD of FORGOTTEN HEROES before they make it illegal to make pro Vet films.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget these remakes why watch something we already saw. We all know in our hearts that they are going to screw it up.  You guys want to support a pro-American film, then buy FORGOTTEN HEROES my independent film.  We all talk about supporting conservative filmmakers, well I am here and nothing is moving.  </p>
<p>Forgotten Heroes is &#8216;Objective Burma meets Kelly&#8217;s Heroes.  Its not a great film, i made it on fumes, but like a local wine it&#8217;s not bad.   My film is about a Russian General, played by William Smith (Falconetti) who is seeking freedom during the Vietnam War.  These Americans go in and bring him out and Russian Troops are sent in.  The film is shot in an impressinistic style like those old WWII films with no F-words in it.  Its a good old fashion war film like they use to make at Warners.  </p>
<p>This is exactly the kind of unknown independent pro Veteran, Pro American war film made by a filmmaker with conservative values.  This is an original idea and not a remake.  My film was shut out by the industry and I can write a book on who I met, who I know, who saw my film and how many times.  Its a 20 year struggle to get this film out to you  guys and all you have to do is go to my site</p>
<p><a href="http://www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com" rel="nofollow">www.forgottenheroesthemovie.com</a>   and support a conservative filmmaker and get his film known instead of letting Hollywood destroy a great film directed by John Milius starring WILLIAM SMITH who plays a Russian Officer  in both films, RED DAWN &amp; FORGOTTEN HEROES.</p>
<p>There isn&#8217;t too many guys like me with real films on film that are pro American and ready to be shipped to you.  SUPPORT you local conservative filmmaker who blogs here everyday.  Lets sell hundreds of DVD of FORGOTTEN HEROES before they make it illegal to make pro Vet films.</p>
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		<title>By: Looking Glass</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54277</link>
		<author>Looking Glass</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54277</guid>
		<description>whiskey wrote, &lt;blockquote&gt;"In 1965 Marvin Gaye was singing soulful, respectful songs about romantic longing for women. That could have been sung by Bing Crosby or a Medieval Troubador. In 2005 Rap compares women to pieces of meat. Don’t think this process just magically stayed in South Central."&lt;/blockquote&gt;

  "A mother who remembers her first kiss has a daughter who can't remember her first husband."

  As for the feminization of the media.  I started watching TV again recently after a few years without.  Wow.  Just wow.

  Whiskey's description of network TV as "a female and gay ghetto" is spot on.  I can't make myself watch it.  In many ways the commercials are the worst part, because they jam them in no matter what you're watching.  The all sports channels help, but still aren't immune.  

  Interestingly, my cable provider recently advertised that they would make commercials for interested advertisers, using their own in-house team.  Those commercials have come on line recently and it's night and day difference with the usual Madison Avenue techniques.  No silly skits. Focus on the product.  &lt;b&gt;No one gets ridiculed.&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whiskey wrote,<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;In 1965 Marvin Gaye was singing soulful, respectful songs about romantic longing for women. That could have been sung by Bing Crosby or a Medieval Troubador. In 2005 Rap compares women to pieces of meat. Don’t think this process just magically stayed in South Central.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>  &#8220;A mother who remembers her first kiss has a daughter who can&#8217;t remember her first husband.&#8221;</p>
<p>  As for the feminization of the media.  I started watching TV again recently after a few years without.  Wow.  Just wow.</p>
<p>  Whiskey&#8217;s description of network TV as &#8220;a female and gay ghetto&#8221; is spot on.  I can&#8217;t make myself watch it.  In many ways the commercials are the worst part, because they jam them in no matter what you&#8217;re watching.  The all sports channels help, but still aren&#8217;t immune.  </p>
<p>  Interestingly, my cable provider recently advertised that they would make commercials for interested advertisers, using their own in-house team.  Those commercials have come on line recently and it&#8217;s night and day difference with the usual Madison Avenue techniques.  No silly skits. Focus on the product.  <b>No one gets ridiculed.</b></p>
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		<title>By: Joe Weldon</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54211</link>
		<author>Joe Weldon</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 21:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54211</guid>
		<description>Red Dawn is, and always will be a classic. But leftists will never take that sitting down.

The left will say ANYTHING to destroy conservatism, Republicans, and the legacy of George W. Bush, just as they were attempting it even before 9/11, to paint him as a dunce who stumbled into the White House by stealing an election.

With Democrats and the left, POWER comes first, everything else second.

They know the power of the revision of history - Reagan didn't win the Cold War, Clinton was beloved as one of our greatest Presidents, Bush lied about WMD's ( in spite of Clinton and Gore warning us about Saddam Hussein and his WMD's throughout the '90's), etc.

Leftists have a scorched-earth policy with conservatism - EVERYTHING about conservatism is wrong, evil, and a failure. No exceptions.

I wish Republicans adapted a similiar strategy.

NEVER GIVE THE LEFT AN INCH. NEVER NEVER NEVER.

Man-made global warming is a hoax, and a power grab.

Democrats are responsible for the economic meltdown we're going through right now.

Barack Obama is a closet communist. And worse, possibly a Bill Ayers vehicle for radical policy changes in this country - if he wins the election.

The Iraq War was justified and long overdue. Iraq would NEVER have become a free nation any other way.

Bush liberated over 50 million Muslims in his first term - and refused to abandon them in his second - despite fierce attacks by the Democrat leadership and the left to do so.

The Middle East will experience profound changes toward freedom and democracy because of what Bush did, for our future, and the future of the human race.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Red Dawn is, and always will be a classic. But leftists will never take that sitting down.</p>
<p>The left will say ANYTHING to destroy conservatism, Republicans, and the legacy of George W. Bush, just as they were attempting it even before 9/11, to paint him as a dunce who stumbled into the White House by stealing an election.</p>
<p>With Democrats and the left, POWER comes first, everything else second.</p>
<p>They know the power of the revision of history - Reagan didn&#8217;t win the Cold War, Clinton was beloved as one of our greatest Presidents, Bush lied about WMD&#8217;s ( in spite of Clinton and Gore warning us about Saddam Hussein and his WMD&#8217;s throughout the &#8217;90&#8217;s), etc.</p>
<p>Leftists have a scorched-earth policy with conservatism - EVERYTHING about conservatism is wrong, evil, and a failure. No exceptions.</p>
<p>I wish Republicans adapted a similiar strategy.</p>
<p>NEVER GIVE THE LEFT AN INCH. NEVER NEVER NEVER.</p>
<p>Man-made global warming is a hoax, and a power grab.</p>
<p>Democrats are responsible for the economic meltdown we&#8217;re going through right now.</p>
<p>Barack Obama is a closet communist. And worse, possibly a Bill Ayers vehicle for radical policy changes in this country - if he wins the election.</p>
<p>The Iraq War was justified and long overdue. Iraq would NEVER have become a free nation any other way.</p>
<p>Bush liberated over 50 million Muslims in his first term - and refused to abandon them in his second - despite fierce attacks by the Democrat leadership and the left to do so.</p>
<p>The Middle East will experience profound changes toward freedom and democracy because of what Bush did, for our future, and the future of the human race.</p>
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		<title>By: EPorvaznik</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54191</link>
		<author>EPorvaznik</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54191</guid>
		<description>&#62;&#62;What kind of disordered wacko will attempt to make Red Dawn into an analogy for Iraq?&#62;&#62;

There are many answers, but I'll throw in someone who isn't old enough to have lived through the Cold War. Even though I admittedly just remember its waning years (RIP and thank you, President Reagan), there was something palpable about it that today's generation can't quite grasp. You'd think after 9/11 they could or would, but obviously not this writer.

Now, with a paternally inspired "Godammitsunuvabitchshit!!!!" I will ready my fist to start shaking from the porch when I get home later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;What kind of disordered wacko will attempt to make Red Dawn into an analogy for Iraq?&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>There are many answers, but I&#8217;ll throw in someone who isn&#8217;t old enough to have lived through the Cold War. Even though I admittedly just remember its waning years (RIP and thank you, President Reagan), there was something palpable about it that today&#8217;s generation can&#8217;t quite grasp. You&#8217;d think after 9/11 they could or would, but obviously not this writer.</p>
<p>Now, with a paternally inspired &#8220;Godammitsunuvabitchshit!!!!&#8221; I will ready my fist to start shaking from the porch when I get home later.</p>
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		<title>By: whiskey</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54181</link>
		<author>whiskey</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 20:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54181</guid>
		<description>Stephanie -- the problem is not women. It is single mothers by choice or divorce as the standard for raising kids.

Playing the percentages, when you have most kids being raised by single mothers, at worst you get the Black Community, at best the sort of spoiled yuppie consumerist status-mongers always competing in a mating dance that NEVER ends.

In 1965 Marvin Gaye was singing soulful, respectful songs about romantic longing for women. That could have been sung by Bing Crosby or a Medieval Troubador. In 2005 Rap compares women to pieces of meat. Don't think this process just magically stayed in South Central.

You can't destroy the nuclear family and not expect a self-hatred of your entire society. Men and women need to be mostly married to each other, otherwise your Brave New World looks like Cuba or Venezuela or Obama's America. With Red Dawn remade with the US as bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephanie &#8212; the problem is not women. It is single mothers by choice or divorce as the standard for raising kids.</p>
<p>Playing the percentages, when you have most kids being raised by single mothers, at worst you get the Black Community, at best the sort of spoiled yuppie consumerist status-mongers always competing in a mating dance that NEVER ends.</p>
<p>In 1965 Marvin Gaye was singing soulful, respectful songs about romantic longing for women. That could have been sung by Bing Crosby or a Medieval Troubador. In 2005 Rap compares women to pieces of meat. Don&#8217;t think this process just magically stayed in South Central.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t destroy the nuclear family and not expect a self-hatred of your entire society. Men and women need to be mostly married to each other, otherwise your Brave New World looks like Cuba or Venezuela or Obama&#8217;s America. With Red Dawn remade with the US as bad guys.</p>
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		<title>By: David123456</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54174</link>
		<author>David123456</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54174</guid>
		<description>stephanie,

I love women, but Whiskey has a point.  The more our society is "feminized", the more leftward it drifts.    It's a general societal shift towards dependency on the State because fathers/husbands/providers are no longer part of the picture and have been replaced by the Liberal nanny state.  The Left wanted to destroy the "Patriarchy", they're succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.  This is what the death of the "patriarchy" looks like-- single moms dependent on the STATE for their survival.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stephanie,</p>
<p>I love women, but Whiskey has a point.  The more our society is &#8220;feminized&#8221;, the more leftward it drifts.    It&#8217;s a general societal shift towards dependency on the State because fathers/husbands/providers are no longer part of the picture and have been replaced by the Liberal nanny state.  The Left wanted to destroy the &#8220;Patriarchy&#8221;, they&#8217;re succeeding beyond their wildest dreams.  This is what the death of the &#8220;patriarchy&#8221; looks like&#8211; single moms dependent on the STATE for their survival.</p>
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		<title>By: Growltiger</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54171</link>
		<author>Growltiger</author>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=4918#comment-54171</guid>
		<description>For an interesting contrast, re-watch "Mars Attacks",  a delicious send-up of the kind of naive peaceniks who have the capacity of equating "Red Dawn" with Iraq. 

Where were they when America was bombing the snot out of the Serbians from 25000 feet? Because Bill Clinton was at the helm of the bombing, we didn't hear or read about any Serbian women, children and/or innocents killed. They were expendable.

This is not to say bombing the snot out of the Serbs wasn't the right thing to do, only that Hollywood and other propagandists don't give a damn who dies when it is THEIR president ordering the bombing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an interesting contrast, re-watch &#8220;Mars Attacks&#8221;,  a delicious send-up of the kind of naive peaceniks who have the capacity of equating &#8220;Red Dawn&#8221; with Iraq. </p>
<p>Where were they when America was bombing the snot out of the Serbians from 25000 feet? Because Bill Clinton was at the helm of the bombing, we didn&#8217;t hear or read about any Serbian women, children and/or innocents killed. They were expendable.</p>
<p>This is not to say bombing the snot out of the Serbs wasn&#8217;t the right thing to do, only that Hollywood and other propagandists don&#8217;t give a damn who dies when it is THEIR president ordering the bombing.</p>
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