As a particularly respected historian once said, George Washington would not have been able to find Iraq on a map. The founding fathers did many great things, but are far removed from what’s going on these days, and I have no desire to reanimate their Essentiale Saltes, and give them a quick primer on the last eleven-score and twelve years before asking their advice on matters.

Though, mountains of respect to Bad-Ass Liberal for not automatically whipping out with the slave children narrative when Jefferson came up.

One of the reasons I am always thoroughly frustrated with the election process is the necessity to lie during the campaign, and the willingness everyone’s supporters have to it. McCain twisted himself into a pretzel, trying to shed the maverick image and be everything conservatives wanted him to be - and liberals called him on it, over and over again, and rightly so. Yet I’m sure not a single one of these liberals - at least, those whom I myself see on a regular basis - have a problem with any of the ‘exaggerations’ Obama needed to make to the people to get elected.

Which is why I wrote in ‘None of the Above’ on election day. And proudly.

Jefferson’s letters Or 1776.

Your view of the left is very narrow minded I suggest you turn off Sean Hannity put down “godless” and read something about the actual position of the left, then read Karl Marx’s manifesto and compare and contrast I’ve done it so I am sure someone twice my age can pull it off.

Everyone pretty much knows that he is, at the very least, a liar, after the whole Wright debacle, but no one really cares.

It’s very curious. There needs to be a is a study sometime about just how tolerant one is about their leaders lying and what they’re allowed to lie about. There is obvious zero tolerance from anyone of the opposing party, and clearly much more tolerance if he’s “your guy”.

As nice as it would be to have a useful idiot on our side for a change, I won´t play this game. One side has anti-gay marriage lefties, the other rolls out anti-war ex-Generals, one side goes gaga over a conservative black, the other is giddy with joy because their communist of a candidate gets the endorsement of a billionaire entrepreneur. It goes on and on and proves very little. Makes you wonder if anybody knows why they stand where they stand.