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	<title>Comments on: DHP Review: Revolutionary Road</title>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-82866</link>
		<author>Jenny</author>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 16:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed on all points.  The movie is AWFUL.  Kate Winslet is one of the most overrated actresses of the last 25 years.  I'm not even sure her husband is as enamored of her as a husband should be, if he would direct her as he did in a mess such as this film.  Leo, on the other hand, is an underrated actor and has some truly shining moments in this perpetually and fatally pointless movie.  I wish I had those two hours back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed on all points.  The movie is AWFUL.  Kate Winslet is one of the most overrated actresses of the last 25 years.  I&#8217;m not even sure her husband is as enamored of her as a husband should be, if he would direct her as he did in a mess such as this film.  Leo, on the other hand, is an underrated actor and has some truly shining moments in this perpetually and fatally pointless movie.  I wish I had those two hours back.</p>
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		<title>By: Watch Reviews</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-82865</link>
		<author>Watch Reviews</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two big stars and one bad movie. Straight to DVD...LOL, should have anyway. DiCaprio rarely picks bad scripts, but this would fill the quota IMO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two big stars and one bad movie. Straight to DVD&#8230;LOL, should have anyway. DiCaprio rarely picks bad scripts, but this would fill the quota IMO.</p>
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		<title>By: MovieBob</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-81446</link>
		<author>MovieBob</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 22:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-81446</guid>
		<description>Cloudburster
&lt;i&gt;"Could you be more pretentious?"&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, but typing that whole thing into Babelfish, hitting "English-to-French," then copy-pasting it back into here is a bit more work than I was looking to do at the moment.

&lt;i&gt;"The suburbs are filled with as many unique, interesting people living their lives on their own terms as any other place from penthouses to poorhouses."&lt;/i&gt;

Friend, I live there. No they ain't ;) Like all other landmarks of the "mainstream" of society, 'The Burbs' are alternately openly or subtextually hostile to that which doesn't "fit" to one degree or another. Just the way it is. If it WEREN'T, you wouldn't see the creative industries so jam-packed with 'different' folks who fled them... and now take their revenge (such as it is) by eviscerating their tormentors in image, word and lyric. Generalization? Sure. And like all generalizations, it's more true than the generaliz-ee in question wants to admit.

Though, even if they WERE, it'd be a moot point since I was speaking of (pretty plainly, I'd ad) &lt;b&gt;"The societal system that needs to be at work in a suburb of the type seen in Revolutionary Road."&lt;/b&gt; This specific place, of this specific type, time and place, in this specific movie. That's the story of the book and the film it's been adapted-into: Two people discovering that the place they've found themselves living is anathema to the type of people they are (or were, or thought they were - the question of which one it is is kind of the key to the drama) - one accepts it, the other cannot, both are devastated by the other's choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cloudburster<br />
<i>&#8220;Could you be more pretentious?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yes, but typing that whole thing into Babelfish, hitting &#8220;English-to-French,&#8221; then copy-pasting it back into here is a bit more work than I was looking to do at the moment.</p>
<p><i>&#8220;The suburbs are filled with as many unique, interesting people living their lives on their own terms as any other place from penthouses to poorhouses.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Friend, I live there. No they ain&#8217;t <img src='http://dirtyharrysplace.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Like all other landmarks of the &#8220;mainstream&#8221; of society, &#8216;The Burbs&#8217; are alternately openly or subtextually hostile to that which doesn&#8217;t &#8220;fit&#8221; to one degree or another. Just the way it is. If it WEREN&#8217;T, you wouldn&#8217;t see the creative industries so jam-packed with &#8216;different&#8217; folks who fled them&#8230; and now take their revenge (such as it is) by eviscerating their tormentors in image, word and lyric. Generalization? Sure. And like all generalizations, it&#8217;s more true than the generaliz-ee in question wants to admit.</p>
<p>Though, even if they WERE, it&#8217;d be a moot point since I was speaking of (pretty plainly, I&#8217;d ad) <b>&#8220;The societal system that needs to be at work in a suburb of the type seen in Revolutionary Road.&#8221;</b> This specific place, of this specific type, time and place, in this specific movie. That&#8217;s the story of the book and the film it&#8217;s been adapted-into: Two people discovering that the place they&#8217;ve found themselves living is anathema to the type of people they are (or were, or thought they were - the question of which one it is is kind of the key to the drama) - one accepts it, the other cannot, both are devastated by the other&#8217;s choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Cloudbuster</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-81375</link>
		<author>Cloudbuster</author>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 17:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The societal system that needs to be at work in a suburb of the type seen in Revolutionary Road requires the subsuming of individuality and the self into a collective conformity in order to create a “bubble zone” of superficial stability and middling comfort."

Could you be more pretentious?

The suburbs are filled with as many unique, interesting people living their lives on their own terms as any other place from penthouses to poorhouses. The idea that suburban life is uniquely stifling is precisely the Kool-Aid Hollywood has been peddling for the past few decades, and you've been drinking it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The societal system that needs to be at work in a suburb of the type seen in Revolutionary Road requires the subsuming of individuality and the self into a collective conformity in order to create a “bubble zone” of superficial stability and middling comfort.&#8221;</p>
<p>Could you be more pretentious?</p>
<p>The suburbs are filled with as many unique, interesting people living their lives on their own terms as any other place from penthouses to poorhouses. The idea that suburban life is uniquely stifling is precisely the Kool-Aid Hollywood has been peddling for the past few decades, and you&#8217;ve been drinking it.</p>
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		<title>By: moviebob</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-81190</link>
		<author>moviebob</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Randy
&lt;i&gt;"The problem with all these movies is that they blame the suburbs for the people when it’s really the people that make the suburbs what they are, were, might be."&lt;/i&gt;

Surroundings effect a people about as much as people effect their surroundings. The societal system that needs to be at work in a suburb of the type seen in Revolutionary Road requires the subsuming of individuality and the self into a collective conformity in order to create a "bubble zone" of superficial stability and middling comfort. Since that's not really the way human beings are naturally "wired" for the most part, and since some of us are better (if we so choose) at resisting it than others, you're going to get some friction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randy<br />
<i>&#8220;The problem with all these movies is that they blame the suburbs for the people when it’s really the people that make the suburbs what they are, were, might be.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Surroundings effect a people about as much as people effect their surroundings. The societal system that needs to be at work in a suburb of the type seen in Revolutionary Road requires the subsuming of individuality and the self into a collective conformity in order to create a &#8220;bubble zone&#8221; of superficial stability and middling comfort. Since that&#8217;s not really the way human beings are naturally &#8220;wired&#8221; for the most part, and since some of us are better (if we so choose) at resisting it than others, you&#8217;re going to get some friction.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Man</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-81156</link>
		<author>Randy Man</author>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As far as suburb-hating movies that are really 1950s-hating movies one that nobody here has mentioned is "Pleasantville", a movie I enjoyed when it was new, but found irritatingly puerile and sophomoric when viewed again recently. I wonder if I would have a similarly changed reaction to "American Beauty". The problem with all these movies is that they blame the suburbs for the people when it's really the people that make the suburbs what they are, were, might be. Douglas Sirk was much savvier at this than most of his latter-day acolytes. I grew up in a world almost exactly like "Far From Heaven' and "All That Heaven Allows" and wouldn't have traded it for all the Greenwich Villages in the world. In Wichita Falls the real nightmare was a conked out air conditioner. I'll take a pass on "Revolutionary Road". And see if I can find the movie of John Cheever's "The Swimmer". Yes indeed, there was art to be found in the suburbs, but as always it tooks eyes to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As far as suburb-hating movies that are really 1950s-hating movies one that nobody here has mentioned is &#8220;Pleasantville&#8221;, a movie I enjoyed when it was new, but found irritatingly puerile and sophomoric when viewed again recently. I wonder if I would have a similarly changed reaction to &#8220;American Beauty&#8221;. The problem with all these movies is that they blame the suburbs for the people when it&#8217;s really the people that make the suburbs what they are, were, might be. Douglas Sirk was much savvier at this than most of his latter-day acolytes. I grew up in a world almost exactly like &#8220;Far From Heaven&#8217; and &#8220;All That Heaven Allows&#8221; and wouldn&#8217;t have traded it for all the Greenwich Villages in the world. In Wichita Falls the real nightmare was a conked out air conditioner. I&#8217;ll take a pass on &#8220;Revolutionary Road&#8221;. And see if I can find the movie of John Cheever&#8217;s &#8220;The Swimmer&#8221;. Yes indeed, there was art to be found in the suburbs, but as always it tooks eyes to see it.</p>
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		<title>By: Growltiger</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-80695</link>
		<author>Growltiger</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 17:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Kate Winslet was awful? I’ll have to see this B.S. for myself because despite poorly chosen material, I’ve never seen her awful."

Didn't you see "Sense and Sensibility"? What about "Titanic".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Kate Winslet was awful? I’ll have to see this B.S. for myself because despite poorly chosen material, I’ve never seen her awful.&#8221;</p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t you see &#8220;Sense and Sensibility&#8221;? What about &#8220;Titanic&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wright</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-80688</link>
		<author>John Wright</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 16:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The wife and I just bought a copy of ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE, a film we plan to watch and rewatch until the digits are worn off the digital disc.

This movie sounds like the mere opposite of Frank Capra, as if the fiends of the underworld concocted a dark looking glass where the diametric antithesis of a perfect movie was born: a perfectly bad movie.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The wife and I just bought a copy of ITS A WONDERFUL LIFE, a film we plan to watch and rewatch until the digits are worn off the digital disc.</p>
<p>This movie sounds like the mere opposite of Frank Capra, as if the fiends of the underworld concocted a dark looking glass where the diametric antithesis of a perfect movie was born: a perfectly bad movie.</p>
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		<title>By: Dirty Harry</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-80677</link>
		<author>Dirty Harry</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Daniel: I didn't care for the end of American Beauty -- with the gay marine and the shooting... It was a very lazy ending anyone could've written. Nihilism and irony require only the hands to lay it down.

But the rest of the movie is great. The moment when Lester Burnham opens that young girl's dress, sees a child, and grows up is truly beautiful -- as is the life-affirming montage at the end. Lester redeems himself and dies appreciating his family, looking at their photo. His journey made him appreciate what he had always had and that's a great message. 

Take out the lazy cliche about the gay Marine and you've got a damn near perfect film.&lt;/strong&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Daniel: I didn&#8217;t care for the end of American Beauty &#8212; with the gay marine and the shooting&#8230; It was a very lazy ending anyone could&#8217;ve written. Nihilism and irony require only the hands to lay it down.</p>
<p>But the rest of the movie is great. The moment when Lester Burnham opens that young girl&#8217;s dress, sees a child, and grows up is truly beautiful &#8212; as is the life-affirming montage at the end. Lester redeems himself and dies appreciating his family, looking at their photo. His journey made him appreciate what he had always had and that&#8217;s a great message. </p>
<p>Take out the lazy cliche about the gay Marine and you&#8217;ve got a damn near perfect film.</strong></p>
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		<title>By: PerfectTommy</title>
		<link>http://dirtyharrysplace.com/?p=6469#comment-80666</link>
		<author>PerfectTommy</author>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 12:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Mick LeSalle of the San Francisco Chronicle has named "Revolutionary Road" the best film of the year. Maybe not as good a year for Mick as 2003 when he named "In the Cut" with Meg Ryan naked as the best film of the year, but still, quite a choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Mick LeSalle of the San Francisco Chronicle has named &#8220;Revolutionary Road&#8221; the best film of the year. Maybe not as good a year for Mick as 2003 when he named &#8220;In the Cut&#8221; with Meg Ryan naked as the best film of the year, but still, quite a choice.</p>
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