First Sign Of Palin Derangement Syndrome
Posted by Dirty Harry on Sunday, August 31st, 2008
I don’t care how undemocratic this may sound to some. All I know is that the voices of tedious right-wing liturgy are done on this site.
A guy I know and respect wrote yesterday with the following: “I just wanted to let you know that I read your blog and comments every day, but the number of Republicans on your comments board is so depressing I can’t stand reading it anymore, so I’m afraid I’ll have to tune you out for the next 67 days. I agree with you wholeheartedly on your politics, but these rightwing wackjobs are killing me. I know for freedom of speech you can’t delete them, but I just can’t read it anymore. Good luck to us all. I’ll be back on November 5th.”
I wrote him back and said, “I know, I know…I hate these guys also.” And then something snapped. Or a light bulb went on or whatever.
Now do you understand why Hollywood conservatives keep their mouths shut for fear of losing work? Does it make a little more sense now? We’re not dealing with the local union-or-die Teamster or your Aunt Minnie with the worn photo of JFK still hanging in her kitchen. We’re dealing with people who can’t stand to read a website with right-of-center opinion on it. If they can’t stand that, do you really think they would hire us?
Personally, liberals (who are always welcome here) only get under my skin when they make a good argument; and when that happens I clarify my argument or concede the error. Other than that, it’s pretty easy to ignore the trolls, give anyone who misquotes me hell, and laugh at the rest.
Wells is purging those who disagree with him for the same reason liberals can’t survive talk radio; their ideas can’t survive serious scrutiny or honest debate (such as a comment thread where all’s equal). Therefore, liberals get frustrated and rather than do what most conservatives do when frustrated: clarify, or concede, they purge and erase dissent from their presence.
If you think Bush makes them bed bug crazy … should The Little Messiah lose? Duck.
[thanks to reader qdsteve for the link]
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Carloson 31 Aug 2008 at 7:13 am 1Behold that vaunted liberal toooooooooooolerance they keep telling us about 24/7. Yeah, tolerant as long as your ideas conform to theirs, or as long as those ideas aren’t a threat to their power.
By the way, that’s why an evangelical christian is worse than Al-Qaida to these Libs. AQ aren’t a threat to liberal power, evangelicals are. They’re tolerance extends only so far as it’s not a threat to their power.
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:16 am 2No conservative can ever live in a bubble and avoid the liberal talking points because it is so much a part of our culture. Thus we learn how to make our points in a debate because if we don’t we lose like a kid thrown into a lake that can’t swim. Learn or drown.
Liberals don’t have that problem. They can live in an echo chamber and never know there is a marching band going by outside. It’s why Pauline Kael can say “I don’t know how Nixon won. No one I know voted for him”.
You never win a battle you don’t fight. Like Sarah Palin said Friday, a ship is not built to sit in a harbor.
When a hurricane hits, the last place a boat should be is in a harbor. So when veterans that served with Kerry write a book saying he is unfit to lead the country, liberals sit back confident us yahoos will listen to our masters in the media and dismiss such allegations. And when they lose the election it’s because us yahoos are too stupid to know we’ve been had.
Wells can smooch among his little tight knit community for all I care. Inbreeding will not increase their IQ scores.
Stephanieon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:19 am 3I dont mind teh trolls they can come here, be our whipping boys and then when they finally get tired of it they leave. Not a problem.
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:28 am 4Stephanie
Liberal trolls are fine because we believe in free speech. Wells is an example of which side really believes in free speech and which side wants to put their fingers in their ears and dance around humming.
Kevin of Elmhurston 31 Aug 2008 at 7:30 am 5I have to thank commentor (under previous post) qpdsteve who alerted us to that “Hollywood Elsewhere” website, the one you quote above. Unbelieveable, isn’t it? Except it’s all too believable.
I checked out the site and didn’t find anything like a preponderance of “right-wing” commentators, certainly no “offensive” ones, that needed to be purged. Evidently the fellow who runs the site thinks “right-wing” is ipso facto offensive. Well, okay, I guess. It certainly beats doing the hard work of thinking.
One of his comments was a real jaw-dropper. He says that the jokes about Obama looking and sounding like Star Trek’s Spock character were “racist” because (I am not kidding) “Spock” sounds like “spook.” Uh-huh. Sure. And don’t call him a “twit,” because that starts with T, and that rhymes with P, and that stands for “Pool.”
Ginaon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:42 am 6“. . . the worn photo of JFK still hanging in her kitchen.”
Harry, I didn’t know you knew my grandmother! (Only it’s in the guest bedroom, not the kitchen. It used to creep me out to have to sleep in there.)
JBon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:46 am 7Sounds like a fun new game for the proggies: Six Degrees of Barack-Obama-Victim-Of-Racism Separation.
Stephanieon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:46 am 8Ick a worn out photo of JFK. None in my family ever had that. Though I am pretty sure my sister has a shrine to Bill Clinton…she probably changed her worship though to Blessed Lightning. I find that even sicker.
Vincent Wongon 31 Aug 2008 at 7:57 am 9“I dont mind teh trolls they can come here, be our whipping boys and then when they finally get tired of it they leave. Not a problem.”
Yeah, Stephanie, it’s awesome to see how you and all the others here school them libtards til they slink away with their tails between their legs.
mjkon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:10 am 10FREE SPEECH!!!!
Unless of course, you disagree with the author of the blog then you are worse than Hitler and deserve to be stifled and treated like the village idiot.
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:12 am 11My parents were born in 1914 & 1916 so FDR was their first political hero and of course they loved Truman because he was from MO. My father hated Eisenhower since WWII because DDE had approved Operation Market Garden while dad was serving in the Patton’s 3rd Army. So when JFK was elected his picture went up in our living room.
But my parents, having lived through WWII, stressed to us how blessed we were to be living in this country and the importance of the 1st amendment. They had experienced anti-Catholic bias when they were younger and they made sure that the freedom to say what we want and to pray the way we want were more important than supporting any particular politician. Our dinner meals were open forums where we learned we could say really stupid things.
Why do so many people like Wells in the post war generations have a fear of different opinions?
Stephanieon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:28 am 12Because they are of a generation that was taught by radical jerks to hate the establishment and hate America. They never tolerated free speech at the 68 Convention. I mean if I was to tell my hippy sister who was at that convention that embracing Ahmadinajad was the most dangerous thing any US leader could do she would tell me I was crazy. There would be no discourse, no discussion, just her condecending garbage she would always start. Even with my Dad who may not have had a Master Degree in English WOOOWOOO but he sure saw a hell of a lot of more of life and teh consequences people her hatefilled ideals can have on a society should they get power and keep it. Remember seeing movies where underground anti Hitler people would hide their printing presses and radios? That could be us someday. And trust me these morons who feel so superior like Wells have no idea thats the path they are on. Thats why I go on the warpath. You gotta call em out, shine the sunlight on em, make em see taht you aren’t going to take their lies and slanders. They wanna rumble, I say bring it on.
steevyon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:30 am 13Ike had to approve Market Garden to keep prima donna Monty happy(and the Brits in general).War shouldn’t be about politics but it was and Ike had to play politics at times.
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:49 am 14steevy
Yeah, but the funny thing is that Patton actually knew the politics of post war Europe and knew if the Russians got to Berlin first it would be a problem. Had DDE let Patton loose, post war Europe would have looked a lot different.
I will give DDE credit for not keeping Patton sitting in England and Patton could never have done Eisenhower’s job. it’s just that DDE seemed to forget that the purpose of war is to kill the enemy, not keep egos soothed.
Keiraon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:49 am 15I have the humblest of mommy-blogs. I mention politics a bunch but rarely articulate every single reasoned opinion I have on a particular subject (It’s fluffy and fun and my audience is mostly conservative-leaning family that I’d like to make more conservative). So, it has surprised me in the last couple of days to have random Obama supporters wandering onto my wee site, ready to argue about Palin and occasionally spouting vileness. They have to troll pretty thoroughly on their Google searches to even find me.
Speaks well for their general anal-ity, no?
Audietooon 31 Aug 2008 at 8:57 am 16Read that link last night and ROTFLMAO. They won’t read, won’t hear. won’t stay in the same room with or on the same link with anyone who disagrees with their pet conspiracy story and/or their 10am daily update of history and world view. IThe only thing that never changes is their certitude of the gulit and eviiiiiiil intentions of the fellow Americans.
Audietooon 31 Aug 2008 at 9:03 am 17Kevin of E: that Spock thing is what put me on the floor LMAO. It reminded me of the PC ignorant liberal in Washington, DC government who used the word niggardly to describe a financial transaction. So far as we knwo he is still out of a job, and yes, he did get fired. Tell us again DH that uinlikely story about a black list.
Kevin of Elmhurston 31 Aug 2008 at 9:04 am 18I hear you, Keira. The Left has been using the tactics of intimidation since the thirties, at least. Maybe that sort of argumentation is built into the very core of the Leftist “dialectic.” I think it is, but don’t have the philosophic tools to work it out.
In any case, from calling their opponents “scabs,” “fascists,” “rednecks,” “bigots,” and so on, in the thirties, forties, and fifties, to their contemporary mode of unleasing a fusillade of obscenity on opponents, the purpose is not to convince you, but to frighten you into cowed silence.
It’s kind of pathetic. Instead of making them sound tough, all the foul language makes them sound like petulant Middle Schoolers.
And it’s certainly the wrong tactic to use with the readers of Dirty Harry Place!
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 9:43 am 19Keira
Are they looking for swimsuit pictures? Like I posted over on Rufus yesterday, if they ever find them it will seal the election for McCain.
tranquilitason 31 Aug 2008 at 9:43 am 20Sometimes after hearing yet another non-explanation of liberal beliefs I say nothing and just smile to myself. WE WON in 2000 and 2004 and they will never be able to change that. They have to live with that for the rest of their lives. hahaha
Sarah Palin is absolutely freakin’ these people out. And I’m loving it. The Dems’ talking points sound even more lame than usual. I actually heard one say that Palin represents more of the same. Hell, yeah. She embodies it. But that Biden he’s a whole new twist full of fresh ideas. Not.
I love how Palin is getting compared to Obama. That seems off to me. And revealing.
This nothing Governor from a nothing state is getting compared to the Obama-god. That is so funny.
In some ways the MSM and Dems are conceeding on Obama’s lack of experience by trying to argue that Palin’s negates Obama’s. If they believed his was strong they would not make that argument at all.
MSM types keep asking if it’s a good thing that someone with her lack of experience would be only a heartbeat away from being Prez. But apparently having Obama being the heartbeat is fine and dandy.
billypaintbrushon 31 Aug 2008 at 9:44 am 21and not just frighten you, but as DH has described as “passioning,” frighten anybody else who might speak up.
regarding politics and war, or war by other means, the military has its own political contours. how to account for wes clark? many military decisions are made based on (internal and external) political considerations.
Salon 31 Aug 2008 at 9:45 am 22Kevin,
If you go to One Cosmos, Gagdad Bob will explain it all to you.
PC= the forced swallowing of a lie
The Government should equal the Good Breast
As others have mentioned, it’s easy to not be a (supposed) hypocrite, if you have no absolutes.
Salon 31 Aug 2008 at 9:48 am 23Had to look up the Kos diary about “it’s not her kid”. What struck me was the chimera of Family Values the left has invented as a bogeyman, and then faulted people for not following to perfection.
But they believe in Utopia, so I guess that makes a certain amount of sense.
Kon 31 Aug 2008 at 10:09 am 24I’m not a Republican. I wasn’t going to vote for McCain. But now the bastich has gone and added Palin to the ticket. Rats!
MovieBobon 31 Aug 2008 at 10:27 am 25People wonder why I just don’t like humanity some days…
A few decades back, “conservatives” who were supposed to be the ideology of rationality and reason threw all that out for the psychopathy of superstitious pandering… and today the left is catching up in that same race to the intellectual bottom. Where are the thinking men and women to turn?
Dirty Harry’s Place… » Hi Pot, My name’s Kettle, and you’re black…on 31 Aug 2008 at 10:30 am 26[…] than 12-hours in the pure oxygen of a freshly purged, ideological echo chamber and already that final protective layer of self-awareness has […]
Blackiswhite, Imperial Agent Provocateuron 31 Aug 2008 at 10:31 am 27How is it everyone else gets the trolls but me. I have been blatantly political over the last year, and spanked Slate’s editor hard for his “Elect Obama or the Country’s Racist!” article a week ago, and I got nuthin’.
Templaron 31 Aug 2008 at 10:38 am 28Where are the thinking men and women to turn?
What possible interest could you have in so foreign a concept as “thinking”, Bob?
Christianon 31 Aug 2008 at 10:44 am 29It’s nice to see some of that liberal open-mindedness we’ve heard so much about. What to do when you can’t win an argument? Just shut down debate and retreat to your echo chamber where your incorrect views will be forever reinforced. How pathetic.
Cambiason 31 Aug 2008 at 11:05 am 30The persistence and ubiquity of lefty trolls is sometimes awe-inspiring (in the same way that watching Leni Riefenstahl films of the Nuremberg rallies is awe-inspiring). I have a little blog devoted to science and games to promote my little game company, and one topic I often like to cover is what the deranged geniuses at DARPA (the Pentagon’s technology research agency) come up with. Invariably some troll will drop a turn in the comments about how this is “more ways for soldiers to die in Bush’s wars” — except that they use fewer capital letters and more f-bombs. I delete them. They’re not germane to the subject of the blog, I don’t want to waste time arguing with them, and I’m not going to give them my Web site to air their views. If they actually wanted to start a real discussion about military technology it would be great, but after one has stated an opinion the only thing to do is state it again louder.
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:14 am 31Christian:
You are wrong about liberals wanting to shut down debate. I’ hear this all the time.
Liberal 1 - I love Obama more than anyone in the world.
Liberal 2 - No, I love Obama more than anyone else.
Liberal 1 - You’re crazy - I love Obama more than anyone in the world and you know it.
Liberal 2 - How many pictures do you have of him on your walls? I have sixteen in my bedroom. Bet you don’t have that many.
Liberal 1 - Do too! And I decorated my kitchen with Obamam wallpaper. And i play his race speech from Philadelphia all day on my record player.
Liberal 2 - But I love him more!! I do! Id o! I do!
And it just goes on like that all day long. I understand Licoln and Douglas are popping out of their graves.
Opuson 31 Aug 2008 at 11:17 am 32Just curious, has anyone ever compared the number of leftwing sites that censor conservative comments in comparrison to rightwing sites that censor liberal comments.
Zundfolgeon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:23 am 33When I read stuff like that on Wells’ site (my God he admitted his side is Stalinist for chrissake), or watch the videos of leftist protesters circling Michelle Malkin chanting “Kill Malkin” I’m saddened.
Saddened because I realize there will never be peace with those people, we’ll never be able to share America and “live and let live”. Someday (hopefully LONG after I’ve died of extreme old age) there will be outright war with those people and people will die, communities will be destroyed and we’ll still probably end up under the boot of some sort of dictator.
I thank GOD that he has made it medically impossible for my wife and I to breed … I’d hate to bring children into this mess.
There’s your cheerful thought of the day :p
fiestamomon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:26 am 34One of the commenters said:”I’ve never really understood the presence of right wingers here. Film seems to me to be a celebration of art, free expression and intellectual inquiry, three things to which the right is hostile……and then there’s the homophobes…”
I know it shouldn’t surprise/offend me, but this really does. I’m a right winger and I don’t like art/intellectual inquiry? I’m homeschooling my kids right now, and I have a high schooler reading Thuycides, the Iliad and he’s taking Latin among other things. Now, I don’t appreciate crucifixes in jars of urine, so if that’s what the commenter means….
Then the “right wingers are homophobes”. That’s something else I don’t get. Hollywood is supposedly full of closeted actors and actresses. Whose making them stay in the closet? If these libs are so proud of being gay, why not get out of the closet and get on people magazine? Cause it isn’t right wingers keeping them in, we assume everyone in Hollywood is gay as it is! (that’s a joke)- well, kinda
And another thing! If film is so “artistic”, then what’s these libs excuse for releasing films like Norbit, any Pauly Shore movie, etc?
edward_mon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:28 am 35Now we see how much the Constitution really means to true liberals. If the 2nd can be ignored or changed to suit, why not the 1st?
So, the new definition:
Freedom of Speech - The right to present your views and speak you’re mind (so long as liberals agree with you….otherwise you’re not allowed to express said views until they conform with Big Brother).
I particularly love the title of the post: ‘Stalinist’ sounds just about right.
Old Uncle Joe must be smiling in Hell right about now.
Stickwick Staperson 31 Aug 2008 at 11:28 am 36Mr. Wells has provided an invaluable lesson by demonstrating why free speech is such a rare and precious thing. Everyone wants free speech for himself, but the really difficult part is to want it for someone else — especially someone you despise.
His is a privately-run blog, so there’s no point in crying “censorship!” But one hopes that the sort of people like Mr. Wells and his acolytes, who cannot tolerate opinions they find objectionable, and who find solace in the silencing of opposing voices, never get their hands on the levers of power.
And, speaking as the grand-daughter of Ukrainian immigrants, the title of his post is depressingly accurate.
edward_mon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:32 am 37Oh, and I just love Moviebob’s posts:
His brand of psycho-babel voodoo is alway entertaining.
Johnny Ed's Babyon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:34 am 38edward_m
We will all have freedom of speech as long as it is sieg heil and we raise our right arms in salute.
I wonder if Wells is going to go back into his picture archive and airbrush out those that crossed the party.
Stickwick Staperson 31 Aug 2008 at 11:37 am 39A few decades back, “conservatives” who were supposed to be the ideology of rationality and reason threw all that out for the psychopathy of superstitious pandering…
Bob, you do realize the irony of freely making this claim on a conservative website where there isn’t the slightest threat of being silenced?
And what does “psychopathy of superstitious pandering” mean?
Templaron 31 Aug 2008 at 11:45 am 40Bob, you do realize the irony of freely making this claim on a conservative website where there isn’t the slightest threat of being silenced?
Stickwick, I’m willing to be that he doesn’t.
Kendamaon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:51 am 41I just got back from reading a Facebook discussion on why Democrats were hoping for Gustav to cause destruction during the Republican National Convention. I read the posts by an Obama supporter on how focus on the Family prayed for rain on the Democratic National Convention and instead they get a hurricane in New Orleans. This supporter says it is proof that conservatives’ “imaginary space buddy” (God) hates us. I don’t see how a little rain is the same as a hurricane or other natural disaster.
After reading such callous postings, I can finally say I understand why Stephanie is as vitriolic as she is.
Remember, if a Republican said this, it is proof positive that we are Hitler.
Kendamaon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:55 am 42That reminds me…
If a Republican wished for a terrorist attack because they felt it would improve their prospects for election or re-election, or it would increase their standing as politicians when they respond heroically, we would be raked through the coals.
MovieBobon 31 Aug 2008 at 11:57 am 43Stickwick
“Bob, you do realize the irony of freely making this claim on a conservative website where there isn’t the slightest threat of being silenced?”
Since I’m reasonably certain that it’s clear that my point is to CONDEMN Wells’ behavior in this case, i.e. agreeing with the lot of you and the proprietor of this site, I’m not really sure where the “irony” would be.
“And what does “psychopathy of superstitious pandering” mean?”
That after slightly more than a decade I’m running low on euphamisms.
the405on 31 Aug 2008 at 12:01 pm 44I had to laugh when I read this…
And dammit, I haven’t built this site into a respectable Hollywood column over the last four years to provide a forum for thuggish Barack Obama bashers and Sarah Palin back-rubbers.
When did Jeffery Wells become respectable in Hollywood? Everyone I talk to in the biz views him as one notch above Earl Dittman.
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Templaron 31 Aug 2008 at 12:01 pm 45That after slightly more than a decade I’m running low on euphamisms.
Give in, Bob. Join us. You know it to be true…
Templaron 31 Aug 2008 at 12:15 pm 46Since I’m reasonably certain that it’s clear that my point is to CONDEMN Wells’ behavior in this case, i.e. agreeing with the lot of you and the proprietor of this site, I’m not really sure where the “irony” would be.
I imagine at least some of the irony would lie in your making such a wonderfully irrational accusation of irrationality against conservatives on a conservative weblog wherein you’ve repeatedly been subject to a rational and reasoned analysis of your world-view, rather than, say, being banned out of the “psychopathy of superstitious pandering”.
Stickwick Staperson 31 Aug 2008 at 2:12 pm 47Since I’m reasonably certain that it’s clear that my point is to CONDEMN Wells’ behavior in this case, i.e. agreeing with the lot of you and the proprietor of this site, I’m not really sure where the “irony” would be.
Because you prefaced this condemnation with a gratuitous insult to “conservatives,” and implied that it’s only now that liberals are heading down the same path.
And what Templar said.
Carolynon 31 Aug 2008 at 2:16 pm 48Dang! So Wells won’t let me post on his site? Well, shoot! That means he won’t get the chance to hear this neat joke:
“John McCain and Barack Obama somehow ended up at the same barbershop. As they sat there, each being worked on by a different barber, not a word was spoken. The barbers were even afraid to start a conversation, for fear it would turn to politics.
As the barbers finished their shaves, the one who had Obama in his chair reached for the aftershave. Obama was quick to stop him, saying, ‘No thanks. My wife Michelle will smell that and think I’ve been in a whorehouse,’
The second barber turned to McCain and said, ‘How about you?’ McCain replied, ‘Go ahead. My wife doesn’t know what the inside of a whorehouse smells like.’”
Stephanieon 31 Aug 2008 at 2:17 pm 49I don’t even like being vitrolic, or called that but you gotta understand thats what they think and say to you when you are the target. Try staying professional when one of these scuzzy sleeze balls call you, won’t listen to you and then when you say Sir sorry I can’t help you but I can put you through to your own congressman’s office (Idiot had no idea who his Rep was…this is the level of their intelligence) he drops the C Word on you. I also loved having my boss called a Nazi, by a person who is a Nazi. A person who wouldn’t know what a Nazi was if Hitler himself came up and bite them on the ass. This is true. The employ brown shirt tactics but don’t honestly see themselves or are even aware that is what they are doing. I dropped being Reaganesque with them because I just got fed up. The only reason for a leftwing moonbat to exist is so they can beaten into a pulp every election cycle. Thats all they are good for.
Griffon 31 Aug 2008 at 3:03 pm 50As an occasional poster at the Wells site, I was a little saddened to see the new regime. On the other hand, there was a lot of insult and ad homenium going on…although I don’t have the stats, and I can’t be sure which side was bringing the trash into the house. It’s his site, he can do what he wants. And for all his lefty leanings, Commissar Wells might have been going for some wry self-mocker by titling the post a Stalinist Purge.
Audietooon 31 Aug 2008 at 3:10 pm 51Good one, Carolyn.
Growltigeron 01 Sep 2008 at 6:49 am 52The guy who left the site raised our collective IQ by thirty points.
Dirty Harry’s Place… » CHUD’s Devin Faraci: Palin Hoped For Miscarriageon 01 Sep 2008 at 7:41 am 53[…] sanity for daring to stroll off the liberal Hollywood plantation? Well, now that Jeff Wells has purged conservatives from his site and the liberals are free to expose their real selves without […]
Fred Fiendlyon 01 Sep 2008 at 8:17 am 54If you visited Wells’ site more, you’d know that “wry self-mockery” is the LAST quality he has.
The guy he went after in this case was almost always civil and documented his points with facts and links. What Wells couldn’t stand wasn’t that he was abusive or crude, but that he argued so well for his side.