Mason Dixon: Pennsylvania Up For Grabs
Posted by Dirty Harry on Thursday, October 30th, 2008
The best state poller in the country shows Obama only up by 4 in PA with 9% undecided.
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Posted by Dirty Harry on Thursday, October 30th, 2008
The best state poller in the country shows Obama only up by 4 in PA with 9% undecided.
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Plissken79on 30 Oct 2008 at 7:17 am 1This is very good news, but McCain will have to do very well in Western, Central, and Northern Pennsylvania to overcome voter fraud in Philadelphia. Two thins might help, Murtha will probably make more stupid remarks, and hopefully Philly will still be celebrating its first sports championship in 25 years on Tuesday
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 7:22 am 2You guys all hear about the single Mom from New York who blew the Whistle on ACORN………interesting stuff.
This poll is what my people in PA have been telling me. And I was at the campaign office here and hmmm interesting but Democrats for McCain signs are flying off the shelves along with McCain Palin signs. Heh.
NeoConJedion 30 Oct 2008 at 7:28 am 3Stephanie’s right … I’m working at a headquarters in Ohio on the Western Pa. border, and we can’t keep the Democrats for McCain signs in the building.
We just got a huge new shipment in, and they’re gone.
I did my first door-to-door tour yesterday, and got a door slammed in my face by some union lackey when I told him my uncles are life-long union GM workers and they already voted for McCain.
Before that the dumbass actually told me that (and I’m not kidding) that McCain was “going to take my healthcare and give it to rich people.”
I almost felt bad for the guy, whose obviously been manipulated to the point of no return.
Growltigeron 30 Oct 2008 at 7:45 am 4Voter fraud is a problem, not only in PA but in every state that counts. I understand here in VA that college students are voting twice, in their home state and here where they go to school. We all know what’s going on in OH.
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 7:52 am 5Growl how do you sleep at night? Geez…can’t you just take something good and be happy for it? Run with it. What must it be like to be so miserable all friggen day long?
Growltigeron 30 Oct 2008 at 8:16 am 6Stephanie, I came back to ask you a question, hoping you’d still be on line only to find some nasty aside directed at me. You really should try to be more civil, especially to people who are on your side. You have a great deal of information that is helpful. You know stuff most of us don’t know. Flaming people is counterproductive, especially people on your side.
To point out there is a great deal of voter fraud going on is a fact of life, not an indication of misery. If anything, learning that my state (VA) is being corrupted makes me MORE determined to vote next Tuesday. Unless I’m on the autopsy table or hooked up to IVs in the hospital, I’ll be there!
If you can forgo trashing me, perhaps you could explain the significance of a poll which shows our candidate behind by 4. Is it because he is expected to be behind by more than 4?
Or is the large number of “undecideds” significant (as I suspect)? Is it because PA is considered a solid blue state?
I am very interested in your opinion because you have insight I don’t have.
By the way, I am very happy. Scared sh****** that we’re going to elect a Marxist wacko (or have the election stolen), but essentially happy. I just get dirt in my ears when I stick my head in the ground.
dudesaplentyon 30 Oct 2008 at 8:17 am 7O.K. Dirty Harry Fess up who do you think will win this tuesday?
dudesaplentyon 30 Oct 2008 at 8:21 am 8Uh Growltiger all Stephanie is saying is just take the good news and enjoy. Don’t Panic!
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 8:40 am 9Um Growel first off you lose readers when you write a novel. Second of all I never put my head in the dirt so you can apologize for that remark. Dudes was right. All I am saying is the news is now sounding better and yet you dwell in the misery. Nothing to be miserable about. You should be bouncing around on your toes ready to do battle instead of crying about electing a Marxist. Have we done that yet? No. Will we do that? Probably NOT! And a little advice. Stop watching CNN. They are full of sh*t. Have always been full of sh*t and will always be full of sh*t.
Growltigeron 30 Oct 2008 at 8:43 am 10Dude,
Frankly, other than those in the Kool Aid states, I haven’t put my trust in any of the polls showing Obama significantly in the lead. I believe the Bradley Effect is working in reverse — people are afraid of being accused of being Racist if they don’t SAY they’re supporting Obama. I also check the caller ID before I pick up the phone. Some of my friends don’t even have land line phones. I think pollsters use polls in an effort to stampede the “herd” in the direction they want us to go. I just happen to believe rather than attacking each other, we should try to learn from each other. Maybe I’m wrong. If so, I’ll shut up and not report what I know. (What I reported that started this fracas came to me from the GOP in VA because we contributed to McCain/Palin. I just thought the rest of you ought to be made aware. Am I incorrect. Is this a web site where only cheerleading is accepted. If so,
RA is the Sun God,
RA is the Fun God
RA RA RA
Dark Edenon 30 Oct 2008 at 8:54 am 11Growltiger said, “I believe the Bradley Effect is working in reverse — people are afraid of being accused of being Racist if they don’t SAY they’re supporting Obama.”
Actually I think this was always a large part of the Bradley effect. If you don’t say you will vote for the not white guy, you are accused of being a racist, so you nod and smile and tell the pollster what you know they want to hear then vote the way you were going to all along. In this dangerously PC climate where Joe the Plumber is attacked for daring to ask a question of the Messiah, its the only safe play for a lot of people.
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 8:57 am 12Reverse Bradly effect…wow are you also a political scientist? Thats a new one…….uh huh. Sure. God the crap a person reads. You know Growl you must be a blast in a half to hang out with…..
Growltigeron 30 Oct 2008 at 8:58 am 13STephanie,
You are a rude ass.
Kiton 30 Oct 2008 at 9:00 am 14The Republican Party=
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Littleenginethatcould.jpg
PerfectTommyon 30 Oct 2008 at 9:03 am 15Stephanie, love your positive attitude about the race, but not your nastiness to fellow posters.
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 9:13 am 16I am sick of the pessimism Tommy. Time and time again, Jack and I have told these people to buck up and thats it not what they think and they choose to ignore us and bury themselves in misery. That has no place in this fight. When you have PA in the toss up category, Iowa, and other states now starting to change and they still choose to believe an msm they say themselves lies I just don’t get it. I really don’t. Its to me almost wishing to lose. Self fulfilling prophesy and it makes me mad. We can’t afford to have that attitude and maybe a little kick in the pants and smack would help them wake up. We aren’t done. The people out there, blue collar hardworking GOPERS and DEMS are pissed and scared. But they get ignored by certain types who choose to believe idiots like Teen Wolf Blitzer, Keith Olbermann and Chris Hack Matthews.
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 9:18 am 17And also don’t tell me that I am ignoring whats going on. That makes me really mad and in fact I find that rude. I am sick of the pessimism. I am sick of the McCain bashing taht goes on in GOP circles. As if what people sit around waiting for Ronald Reagan to ride up on his white stallion to save them? He is dead. He is Valhalla wondering whats wrong with you people. Your all afraid of Obama but then you bash your own canidate? How does it feel to have Hillary supporters more into helping John McCain and Sarah Palin than their own party? Its embarressing. No one wants to see the forest for the trees. Everyone wants to cry and carry on. Meanwhile McCain leads in early voting here in Florida and PA has gone toss up, Iowa, ME, MN, and NH. Obie is struggling in Virginia, and he has not a prayer in NC. But still if the MSM says it must be so. And that is whats wrong with conservatives in general. Instead of acting like can do Reaganites we act like we can’t Goldwaterites. Its ridiculous.
dudesaplentyon 30 Oct 2008 at 10:30 am 18Growl i get what you are saying but you are doing something that happens alot these last two months/years you are contributing to a defeatist attitude that Axelrod types love and take advantage of.it is called Eeyore syndrome you panic spread it to other people(where it is most dangerous and intended) and start to do the competition job of suppressing turnout if possible.They want you to do this in any manner that makes it feel like hopelessness.
Ginaon 30 Oct 2008 at 10:37 am 19Geesh, Stephanie, lighten up. I’m on your side and I greatly appreciate your optimism, but there’s no need to fly tooth and nail at everyone who’s just trying to have a conversation. They’re not all trolls, you know. Frankly, I think Growltiger made some good points about the Bradley Effect, and wasn’t trying to be negative.
Believe me, I’ve seen enough of the Eeyore syndrome around the blogosphere to think that Growltiger is hardly a poster child for it.
dudesaplentyon 30 Oct 2008 at 10:50 am 20Voter Fraud has always been a problem and Obama is trying to exploit it to the fullest but something that our side has always had to deal with and will do so accodingly this election.Growl may not be an Eeyore but he is not helping the situation by speaking of something everyone is aware of and concerned about.Some states have mechanisms in place to handle it i’m hearing.
Stephanieon 30 Oct 2008 at 10:59 am 21Never said he was a troll Gina. Point it out where I said that. And I do not like Vichy Conservatives. Bad mouth the ticket, whine about McCain but not a bad word about Obama. Honestly Gina what would you think? Look my guys didn’t win the nomination. I am not still crying about it. I was one of the biggest anti McCain people to. However when faced with Obama and realizing what the choices are its not hard to go back and see where you MIGHT have places of agreement with John McCain. Now go to the ACU page and look up Mac’s rating. 82 percent. Reagan said two things, if you can agree with a man 80 percent of the time he is a political brother. And THOU SHALL NOT SPEAK ILL OF FELLOW REPUBLICANS! If you are honestly a Reaganite you wouldn’t go after McCain. You’d embrace him. Now either get over the primaries and put your country first or be happy being depressed.
Ginaon 30 Oct 2008 at 11:07 am 22I’m not going after McCain, Steph, and I’m not expressing approval of anyone who does. I want him to win as much as anyone else here does, and I have hope that he will. I’m just tired of trying to have a productive conversation over here and having to deal with your rage. Can’t we all try to be optimistic and civil to each other at the same time?
Growltigeron 30 Oct 2008 at 11:16 am 23Okay, guys. TRUCE.
Stephanie, find a post where I bashed McCain. Don’t think you can. He wasn’t my candidate either (Guiliani was). I love RR and don’t expect him to be riding in on a white horse. I am not a Conservative or a Republican (used to be a Libertarian, now an Independent) so I cannot be a Vichy Conservative. But I vote for your guys because the alternative is anathema to me.
I’ve been defending Sarah Palin like a rabid T-Rex when people dare to suggest she’s inexperienced. I remind them that the MSM did not say that about Governor Clinton who was the gov. of a pissant state that hovers near the bottom in just about every g****** statistic one can name. I remind them that AK is 2.4 miles from Russia — the same Russia that just invaded Georgia. And that Canada, hardly a novice when it comes to America bashing and Muslim loving, is on her other border.
Want me to bash Obama? Okay, here goes. He’s an arrogant, empty suit with an affirmative action education that I’m not sure educated him beyond his intelligence whose purple lips and Big Brother eyes turn my stomach. I need a new remote because every time that insufferable anus equinus appears on the tube, I hit the mute button. I did not watch the Obamathon last night. I advocate boycotting every g******* movie star and/or director who gave that insufferable sob one red dime.
That said, I thought informing posters here of something I found out would be taken as informative, not Eyoring. Maybe Obama can steal VA, but if Virginia’s behavior in the past is any indication of how VA will behave in the future, every sob who had a hand in it will be voted out of office.
EPon 30 Oct 2008 at 11:45 am 24Stephanie, love ya dear, but you were out of line with Growl’s first post, one which I didn’t in the least find negative, just an observation. You didn’t make it better with subsequent ones either. Hopefully you’ve chilled by now and please try to remember that with little troll pop-up occurrences ’round here aside, in the words of the Hooters, we’re fightin’ on the same side.
That Hooters reference has been brought to you by the city of Philadelphia, most of whom have probably forgotten about the band.
kinlawon 30 Oct 2008 at 11:51 am 25Stephanie, you are getting tiresome. You attack anyone who doesn’t sing your “we’re gonna win in a landslide” song.
You call everyone you disagree with a troll or worse.
We all know: you’re smartest, bestest person on this board.
Now give it a frickin rest.
misterdon 30 Oct 2008 at 5:49 pm 26While I’m glad to hear the Dems for McCain signs are flying out the door, I cannot help but think…
If I were convinced that the Messiah is Here…
If I were sure that the last two elections were stolen…
If I were willing to accept fraudulent donations…
If I were willing to sign up thousands upon thousands of illegitimate voters…
If I were willing to blackball any media outlet that didn’t come on bended knee…
If I were willing to hack into Palin’s emails and Joe’s government records…
If I were willing to spread scurrilous lies about Palin’s children…
If I were willing to turn a blind eye to Ayers and Wright and the rest…
I sure wouldn’t hesistate to gather up some friends to visit every McCain campaign site and eagerly ask for every sign they would be willing to give, and then use them to heat my home for the winter.
Jack Marinoon 31 Oct 2008 at 1:38 am 27Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war
and beat this loser into the ground on election day